The EP does not outperform the Lasko. FUVM. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. Shame--big time--on Bob Vila, since he HAS to know better. Have i used them. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. Coincidentally, Burkett is the father of St. Aquinas' star quarterback Bobby (Logan Huffman) and his struggle to assert his copyright against his conniving space heater magnate boss (Richard . bl. If you really want to save energy and money on heating costs, don't shell out hundreds of bucks on a space heater. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. Have tried it a few times since after unplugging it and the same thing happens, it will run for just a couple of minutes and it dies. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free USA. Hatco GRAH-48-208-T-QS Glo-Ray 48" Infrared Strip Heater | 1100 Watts (Closeout) Free Shipping Quick Ship $265.10 / Each $226.05 / Each Add to Cart Nemco 6150-60 60" Infrared Bar Heater | 1400 Watts Quick Ship $184.00 / Each Add to Cart Hatco GRAH-48-120-T-QS Glo-Ray 48" Infrared Strip Heater | 1100 Watts Free Shipping Quick Ship $265.10 / Each Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. Both the gen 4 and the personal. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. Is it reliable. up. I guess two guys with a beard is supposed to lend your overpriced heater more credibility. I love it. No repairs either. I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . Question: Is any heater like this okayed by Insurance companies? The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. KALAMAZOO/PORTAGE heating & air conditioning/hvac. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. The Edenpure is better than most electric heaters because Of how it creates its heat. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. My electric bill actually increased. I WAS FREEZING. This guy can't read apparently. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. In some situations yes but in some no. A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. A portable electric heater can keep small rooms warmer without heating the remainder of the home to a higher temperature. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. Is anyone anymore really honest? I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. I just needed to confirm that there hadn't been a major scientific breakthrough that makes free energy. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. The linear source of infrared radiant energy and heat exchanger are mounted in a heater core that is thermally insulated by an air jacket from an exterior case. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! I will not call this a scam. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. Paying almost $400.00 an Edenpure with needing bulbs every two years, these are no longer a savings, Biotech Research lends their name Edenpure out to all these little retailers who soak you on the price of the heating bulbs. I just read Steve's reply and had he spelled better I might have give it more creditability. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. It does nor really matter what type of heat source is used: gas, electric, oil, wood, solar, wind etc. I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. rooms for rent in. In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. The clue is in the word personal . Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. I criticize the device for a few reasons: But Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure says it best: Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. Within a month the heating capacity was diminished 50 %. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. What else can I do? In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. Underdogs: Directed by Doug Dearth. I bought BOTH the heater and the air filter. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Thank you for the validation. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. [1] Menu. Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. How? Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. . It is now the 12th of Jan. and no heater. 29/12/2020 . When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. He is just whoring for the Edenpure company (or whatever their corporate identification is). You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. *** So the smaller heater will produce heat but others that I have tried burn the air. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. Many heaters like EdenPure claim to "Cut your heating bills in half!". Its wheels make relocation a snap." The cost was going to be $10,000. Has anyone specifically gone from a traditional electric space heater (ONLY) to an Eden and found an improvement in their electric bill? Especially true if the ductwork is uninsulated or leaks air. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? Every one I talked to loves there eden pure I going to get one this weekend worth it. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. long time no see stevo it took me ages to find it this is there contact, and some info ,ring them for advice ,say mick give you there number. That crock of the well-known barnyard commodity doesn't cut it. Because heating up a room with electric heat is the most expensive way to do it, simply closing off furnace ducts to unused rooms would result in bigger savings using an EdenPURE, and it would not involve the cost of a new heater. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. After a few weeks it was obvious that this heater is no more efficient than one I can buy mail-order or at Costco for $ 30.00-60,00, so I sent it back at my expense. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. The machine shot out sparks. I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. As well as my cats! Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. Crawfordville, FL (1) Daytona Beach (FL) (4) Fort Myers-Cape Coral (FL) (6) Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie (FL) (1) It's not that I think the EdenPURE doesn't work. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. He went to the furnace room and found it comfortably warm, which he attributed to the retention and re-radiation of heat from a sheet of "cured copper" stored there. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. Click a location below to find Bill more easily. You do the math. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! is way overpriced for what it does. Nice flat spot for debris. If it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, it is only delivering 8,000 btus. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. Some people still can't get it. Out of stock at this time though. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. I wonder how much Edenpure payed Bob Vila to get on television and tell all these lies about the Gen 4 heaters? Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. When Eric "Hoovey" Elliott, a promising basketball player, collapses on the court, doctors find a life threatening tumour in his brain. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. Lowering the thermostat(s) by 3F would likely result in minimal discomfort for you and your family, but are you willing to keep your home at 50F? I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. for 1+3, enter 4. It is likely that Sylvania gets the rated 20,000 hours of bulb life in their normal testing fixtures / burn racks. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. They were not meant to be used in that manner. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. I was told that I have 60 days trial and could return it back within 60 if I choose to, but that is not true. Same reasons. Again, it was ZONE heating and with a heat pump, like that was going to save me money. bill burkett heater net worth. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. 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