It featured a ten-round box magazine which was loaded with the .303 Britishcartridge manually from the top, either one round at a time or by means of five-round chargers. Serial numbers are found on the inside right, front of the body while.303 conversion numbers used the left side. The Serial Number is located on the right side of the receiver ring. Australia: No.1 MkIII/MkIII* manufactured at Lithgow Arsenal in Lithgow, New South Wales. In the early 1930s, a batch of 2,500 No. [77] The end result was the Charlton Automatic Rifle (based on the obsolete MLE), [78] which was issued to Home Guard units in NZ from 1942. 4 Mk 1 rifles so upgraded were re-designated No. The No. 8 is in regular use with UK Cadet Forces as a light target rifle. GWF is free to use so please support the Forum. [14], During both World Wars and the Korean War, a number of LeeEnfield rifles were modified for use as sniper rifles. It was a further simplification and cut down on both material costs and machine time in its construction, much as the No. 4 Mk. 1 Mk III* it lacked a volley sight and had the wire loop in place of the sling swivel at the front of magazine well along with the simplified cocking piece. Initial production was 1,403 conversions of 19311933 troop trials No. They were then known by the designation Telescope Straight, Sighting L1A1. for the rest of the story you need to post some really good photos , there is a question or two that jump to mind but ill leave those to the more knowledgeable among us . All Savage-Stevens Enfield rifles have a letter C in their serial numbers. Just saying that here is an instance where a number was mistaken as a date. But here is the thing, that number on that No 4 is stamped in an area where some manufacturers stamped the year it was made. Numbers and markings on rifles, I find fascinating. Possible, sure. 24 Oct 2008. It has markings of a crown and GR Numrich Gun Parts Corporation 226 Williams Ln. [22], A shorter and lighter version of the original MLEthe famous Rifle, Short, Magazine, LeeEnfield, or SMLE (sometimes spoken as 'Smelly', rather than S, M, L, E)[14]was introduced on 1 January 1904. The resulting weapon, designed by W.G. 5 Mk I as a 'Jungle Carbine'. This sight line like other aperture sight lines proved to be faster and more accurate than the typical mid-barrel rear sight elements sight lines offered by Mauser, previous LeeEnfields or the Buffington battle sight of the 1903 Springfield. 4 Mk IV, The LeeEnfield in military/police use today, THE .256 INCH BRITISH: A LOST OPPORTUNITY by Anthony G WilliamsArchived 6 June 2013 at the Wayback Machine, Special Service Lee Enfields: Commando and Auto Models by Ian Skennerton. I've just purchased a 1942 stamped Lee Enfield rifle which has a number 93L8939. In Iraq and Egypt, the LeeEnfield was replaced by the Kalashnikov as the standard issue rifle in the Armed Forces by the late 1950s, and in Police Forces by the late 1970s.In the UK, the single-shot .22 calibre Rifle No. Markings on Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk 1* Bryan Brown Dec 2, 1996, 12:00:00 AM to Among the markings on the No. Police forces in both the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu continue to operate and maintain stocks of No.4 rifles. [23] The barrel was now halfway in length between the original long rifle and the carbine, at 25.2 inches (640 mm). I (T) chambered in .303 British. [74], In the early 1950s Essential Agencies Ltd. 4 Mk I (T) and No. Turkish 857mm conversion of a LeeEnfield captured during World War I. Retrieved from 'https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LeeEnfield&oldid=901787238', LeeEnfield conversions and training models, Special service LeeEnfields: Commando and automatic models, Models/marks of LeeEnfield rifle and service periods, Australian International Arms No. 32 Mk. The SMLE Mk V (later Rifle No. good idea, I will have. The usual suggestion is to look for what is the selling price on gun-broker & take the average of sold ones on there for "fair market value". It was never an official military designation but British and Commonwealth troops serving in the Burmese and Pacific theatres during World War II had been known to unofficially refer to the No. Rifle & Carbine Serial Number Log. CIA officer Gust Avrakotos later arranged for the Egyptian Ministry of Defence to set up production lines of Enfield .303 ammunition specifically for the conflict. 5 Mark I, as finalized in March 1944 and officially adopted on Sept. 12, 1944, had an overall length of 39 12", a 20 12" barrel with a "flash eliminator" similar to that used on the Bren. These were converted in late 1941 and into the later part of 1942. 2 Mk. As a standard-issue infantry rifle, it is still found in service in the armed forces of some Commonwealth nations,[13] notably with the Bangladesh Police, which makes it the second longest-serving military bolt-action rifle still in official service, after the MosinNagant. The wristguard markings on a 1918-dated Short Magazine LeeEnfield Mk III* rifle manufactured by the London Small Arms Co. Ltd. Yours falls into the category of having a low serial number and one of 917,000 produced. Talens, Martien. [62][63] No. [20] Many LECs (and LMCs in smaller numbers) were converted to special patterns, namely the New Zealand Carbine and the Royal Irish Constabulary Carbine, or NZ and RIC carbines, respectively. A MK1 MLE in 7-9/10 condition which is average for what I`ve been seeing over the last couple of yrs are in the range of $1500- $2500. 1s, 4 No. [14] LeeEnfield rifles are used by reserve forces and police forces in many Commonwealth countries, including Malawi. [16] To further facilitate rapid aimed fire the rifle can be cycled by most riflemen without loss of sight picture. L59A1 Drill Rifles were rendered incapable of being fired, and of being restored to a fireable form, by extensive modifications that included the welding of the barrel to the receiver, modifications to the receiver that removed the supporting structures for the bolt's locking lugs and blocking the installation of an unaltered bolt, the removal of the striker's tip, the blocking of the striker's hole in the bolt head and the removal of most of the bolt body's locking lugs. About 3,000 rifles, mostly Stevens-Savage, appear to have been partially converted by Holland & Holland but never received brackets, scopes of the final 'T' mark. The Lee-Enfield No. The Original Yesterdays Weapons Lee Enfield - Serial Numbers Moderators: millwright39, PaulM, Amatikulu Share 15 posts 1 2 Next Amatikulu 223 veteran member Aug 17, 2008 #1 The link below is to a web site I created some time ago. Interesting to some American Korean War veterans, the Enfield wasn't issued a flash protector. I (T) and No. 4 Mk I* rifles that were brought up to Mk 2 standard were re-designated No. 1 Mk. The accuracy requirement was ability to place 7 of 7 shots in a 5 inches (12.7 cm) circle at 200 yards (183 m) and 6 of 7 shots in a 10 inches (25.4 cm) circle at 400 yards (366 m). Apr 13, 2010 I have and Enfield.303 No.5 MK1 'Jungle Carbine' serial T5xx that I have been unable to find any production dates for. 2 3 rd Edition, Lee-Enfield No.4 and No. The rifle's two-piece stock and 10-round magazine are two of its most distinctive features. 1 Mk. Many surplus LeeEnfield rifles were sold in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, the United Kingdom and the United States after the Second World War, and a fair number have been 'sporterised', having had the front furniture reduced or removed and a scope fitted so that they resemble a bolt-action sporting rifle. Israel: used during the first few years of independence. [30] The magazine cut-off was reinstated after the First World War ended and not entirely dispensed with in manufacturing until 1933 and some cut-offs remained on rifles so-equipped into the 1960s. Vietnam: Vit Minh captured LeeEnfields from French forces. 4 Mark I would be adopted in 1941 and serve until 1952, until replaced by the M1 Garand. A new rifle based on the Mauser design was created to fire the round, called the Pattern 1913 Enfield. Best to get an appraisal though, and like all things, firearms values fluctuate, more so here in Canada lately. The LeeEnfield series is very popular for service rifle shooting competitions in the UK and Australia due to the prohibitions on the legal ownership of semi-automatic centrefire rifles in Great Britain and restrictions on the legal ownership of semi-automatic centrefire rifles in Australia. The two Charlton designs differed markedly in external appearance (amongst other things, the New Zealand Charlton had a forward pistol grip and bipod, whilst the Australian one did not), but shared the same operating mechanism. #9. In British service, the No. Maybe I will phone some gun shops and see if I can get someone who has a guesstimate. 5 Mk I (the 'Jungle Carbine'). 4's spike bayonetand subsequently the No. 4 Mk 2 (Arabic numerals replaced Roman numerals for official designations in 1944) rifle, a refined and improved No. The WWII British No.4 MK I* evolved from a long line of Lee-Enfield rifles that were first adopted by the British Army in . Attempts were made to find a cooler-burning propellant, but further trials were halted in 1914 by the onset of World War I. [citation needed]. Create your own unique website with customizable templates. )[36], The SMLE design was a relatively expensive long arm to manufacture, because of the many forging and machining operations required. [41], During the course of the Second World War, the No. In the 1920s, a series of experiments resulting in design changes were carried out to help with these problems, reducing the number of complex parts and refining manufacturing processes. Can any one help with identifying this rifle? General Great War Discussion. [68] Production of this model was 19441946 and a few in 1950 to 1953.[69]. BSA Co. 1917 dated, mag cut-off, matched serial numbers. Peek! [103], Many Afghan participants in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan were armed with LeeEnfields. Fixed and adjustable aperture sights incorporated onto later variants. Original Long Branch years are on the left sidewall of the receiver. The Mk V did retain a magazine cut-off, but without a spotting hole, the piling swivel was kept attached to a forward barrel band, which was wrapped over and attached to the rear of the nose cap to reinforce the rifle for use with the standard Pattern 1907 bayonet. The No. (HT standing for 'Heavy Barrel, Telescopic Sight),[14] which saw service in the Second World War, Korea, and Malaya and was used for Sniper Training through to the late 1970s. [97] Magazine supply/importation (M14 and AK 10 single stack mag) whilst legal in Australia, it has been spasmodically curtailed by Australian Federal Customs (for more information, see Gun politics in Australia). Each No. 3. The Howard Francis Self-Loading Carbine was a conversion of a No. That is. if the 1942 denotes year. A conversion specification of No.1 rifles to L59A2 Drill Purpose was also prepared but was abandoned due to the greater difficulty of machining involved and the negligible numbers still in the hands of cadet units. And to get that, the rifle has to be original original original, matching numbers through out, not mismatched sported or refurbished. A redesign of the LeeMetford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the LeeEnfield superseded the earlier MartiniHenry, MartiniEnfield, and LeeMetford rifles. Note 2: GRI stands for 'Georgius Rex, Imperator' (Latin for 'King George, Emperor (of India)', denoting a rifle made during the British Raj. [15] Total production of all LeeEnfields is estimated at over 17 million rifles.[8]. Rifle, Short, Number 4 Mark 1, Short, Magazine Lee Enfield - 1941 Top shown mounting Bayonet Number 9, bottom blow-up mounts "Pig-Sticker" bayonet. The No. 1 Mk. De ransel op de rug deel 2. [11] The Lee bolt-action and 10-round magazine capacity enabled a well-trained rifleman to perform the 'mad minute' firing 20 to 30 aimed rounds in 60 seconds, making the LeeEnfield the fastest military bolt-action rifle of the day. Previous conversions to Drill Purpose (DP) of otherwise serviceable rifles were not considered to be sufficiently incapable of restoration to fireable state and were a potential source of reconversion spares. This means Royal Ordance Factory Fazakerly, Factory Through Repair, 1949. Solomon Islands: used by the Royal Solomon Islands Police Force. What does Smle stand for? The bolt has a relatively short bolt throw and features rear-mounted lugs and the bolt operating handle places the bolt knob just rearwards of the trigger at a favourable ergonomic position close to the operator's hand. All those marks, taken together, tell a story of who made the rifle, who repaired it, who owned it, who used it and where it went. I and converted to sniper equipment by Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield early in 1942. It retains the 10 round box detachable magazine, however the largest change to the rifle . The magazine cutoff was also reintroduced and an additional band was added near the muzzle for additional strength during bayonet use. 1930 (trials only; 1,025 produced and leftover parts assembled into rifles early in WWII), 1931present (2,500 trials examples produced in the 1930s, then mass production from mid-1941 onwards). The Howell Automatic Rifle was the first attempt to convert the LeeEnfield SMLE into a semi-automatic rifle. A further likely consideration was the difficulty of obtaining replacement ammunition in the event of the rifle's theft or the carrier's desertion. 7, Rifle, No. Some rifles (such as LongBranch) had very finely marked serial numbers done with an engraving pen on the receiver wall. This puts collectors into a spin trying to figure it out and fake is called!. Forum for discussion by serious collectors of Lee Enfield arms, accessories, ammunition, and accoutrements [53] These rifles were designated as the No. [14] The Canadian Rangers unit still use Enfield rifles, with plans to replace the weapons sometime in 20172018 with the new Sako-designed Colt Canada C19. Serial numbers tend to be "electro-penciled" onto . 10. The rear 'battle sight' was ground off to make room to attach the No. 6, Mk I[49] was also developed, using an SMLE MK III* as a starting point (as opposed to the No. It is like detective work trying to figure out the clues. The entire bayonet was 21 + 3 4 inches (550 mm) long and weighed 16 + 1 2 ounces (470 g), although the weight of production models varied from 16 to 18 ounces (450 to 510 g). 4s. 2s Modified to Mk. Where are the serial numbers on a Lee Enfield? is there a site or data base of Enfield serial numbers where a person could track their rifle back to place of manufacture, deployment etc.? The Pattern 1907 bayonet consisted of a one-piece steel blade and tang, with a crossguard and pommel made from wrought iron or mild steel, and a wooden grip usually of walnut secured to the tang by two screws. 4 Mk. This Martini Enfield artillery carbine has a number that would suggest a date of 1909, perhaps when the carbine was made drill purpose? I (T). Many early model rifles, of Magazine LeeEnfield (MLE), Magazine LeeMetford (MLM), and SMLE type, were upgraded to the Mk III standard. Lee Enfield 303 Serial Numbers 1 How can I look up my SMLE's history by serial? Lee Enfield Rifle Lookup Upgrade T Later Military equipment, such as the Lee-Enfield rifle, are often found with letters, numbers, codes, runes and symbols stamped, etched, scratched, embossed, pressed or branded into the wood or metal. [42] It was produced only in North America, by Small Arms Limited at Long Branch in Canada and Stevens-Savage Firearms in the USA. Poland: used by the Polish Armed Forces in the West, Portugal: used by the Portuguese Expeditionary Corps, during the First World War. Grizzley1 Registered Joined Aug 31, 2014 Where are the serial numbers on a Lee Enfield? [46] A 'Shortened and Lightened' version of the SMLE Mk III* rifle was also tested by the Australian military and a very small number were manufactured at SAF Lithgow during the course of the Second World War. This is one reason the bolt closure feels smooth. 4 rifle was further simplified for mass-production with the creation of the No. Japan: Captured from British Army during World War II. All 7 of my Lee Enfields (2 SMLE No. The charger bridge was no longer rounded for easier machining.The iron sight line was redesigned and featured a rear receiver aperture battle sight calibrated for 300 yd (274 m) with an additional ladder aperture sight that could be flipped up and was calibrated for 2001,300 yd (1831,189 m) in 100 yd (91 m) increments. [84] The appearance of the L8 series rifles were no different from the original No. [50], The term 'Jungle Carbine' was popularised in the 1950s by the Santa Fe Arms Corporation, a U.S. importer who refurbished many surplus rifles, converting many of the No. 4 variant, a 'battle sight' was developed that allowed for two set distances of 300 yards and 600 yards to be quickly deployed and was cheaper to produce than the 'ladder sight'. Serial numbers below 6000 were for civilian sale, serial numbers 6000 and higher were built under contract to the Canadian government. Most bolts were copper plated for identification. VI but had a flat left side and did away with the chequering on the furniture. . The rifle was also equipped with a detachable sheet-steel, 10-round, double-column magazine, a very modern development in its day. I* (T) sniper rifles were converted to this new calibre and designated L42A1. The Holland & Holland conversions usually have the contractor code 'S51' on the underside of the buttstock. Just a ball park would work, I have seen some Enfield for $600 and some for $2500. 32 telescope progressed through three marks with the Mk. Magazine cut-off on an SMLE Mk III rifle. [100], The quality on such rifles varies from 'as good as a factory-produced example' to 'dangerously unsafe', tending towards the latter end of the scale. Over 1,500 conversions were made, including a handful by Electrolux using Lithgow SMLE Mk III* rifles.[79]. Recently acquired a Lee Enfield Mark4 1/2.303 ser # 52Y20xxx in good condition, & a early Lee Enfield SMLE.303, ser# 21xxx, Does Anyone Know the. 3s and Mk. Austria: used post-war by the Gendarmerie. 4 marks, in the hope of increasing sales of a rifle that had little U.S. market penetration. 1 Mk. 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