Posted: 11/29/2020 9:42:53 AM EST [#5] I . versions and is Browning's best autoloading shotgun. Where the SX4 Came Up Short And honestly, it was never a widely sought after-gun by waterfowlers or pheasant hunters (in part because the A5 and Citori are so popular). The exterior upgrades on this gun are exemplary and make it one of the best duck hunting shotguns on the market. Pushing eight pounds and with an extremely thick recoil pad, "I drink all different flavors of Kool-Aid; only certain flavors give me the shits!". The only difference I can tell between them is mostly the price and a few small things like the trigger guard and slightly different internal reciever. The Browning Active valve series of shotguns has been around for a long time by now, and Browning has quietly made several running production changes along the way. I never felt the gun slip in my hands. Ive found the system to be both handy and a pain in the ass. Theres also an oversized bolt handle on the Winchester Super X4 so you can load and unload it with cold fingers or gloved hands. The fore-end of the SX4 was redesigned so that shooters have a better grip on the gun in the unpleasant weather. That made the gun a little more difficult to swing than some of its competitors. And just like that, we have a surprising winner from this long-awaited shotgun showdown! Although Winchester literature says this gun comes with a "Hard Heel Insert" recoil pad, that is not the case. For the same dollars, I like the Winchester sx4 and the Browning silver due to price. There is also a new, peculiar looking, parallelogram-shaped bolt release and a trapezoid shaped trigger guard. 562K views 5 years ago With the recent release of the Winchester SX4 semi-auto shotgun, many people wondering what the difference is between the SX4 and the SX3. Imo, it is hard to beat a Browning shotguns. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The front "bead" is a fiber optic tube. Genzel grew up chasing mallards and Canada geese in the Illinois River Valley. Browning has made sure that its shotshells pattern beautifully out of its guns. Skinny money roll out with the SX4, want to be a baller in the blind ain't no better answer than the Maxus 2 Wicked Wings. 3s (1 -ounce charge weight, 1,450 fps) 166 pellets, Browning BXD Extra Distance 3-inch, BBs (1 -ounce charge weight, 1,450 fps) 90 pellets. Fits Winchester 12Ga, Browning Invector, Mossberg 500, Weatherby, pre 1993 Ruger Red label shotguns; Winchester sx-2, sx-3, & sxp Use Browning Invector plus tubes. There is no button under the carrier to press before manually opening the bolt, like you would with a Beretta or Benelli. The 20-gauge version of the gun is only 6 pounds, 12 ounces, and is an even better option for waterfowlers who pheasant hunt or are run-and-gun turkey hunters. Here's one of the better reviews to date of the Maxus Sporting: I have already bought myself a trap gun, a lightly used 1985 citori trap model(very lightly used considering age). Royboy. The industry standard is 40 yards, but we wanted to showcase the patterns at a more realistic yardage for duck hunters. Probably, but the A400 Xpolar is surely tempting albeit more money. Unless you're trying to kill turkeys at 60 yards. The updates are all ergonomic. overly heavy guns are part and parcel of the Stoeger line. I also shot several turkey loads through my personal SX4 to break it in after purchase. Royboy. Rubber would have been better, and finally, two gas cylinders. 95 Briley Browning Maxus 2, Winchester SX3 and SX4 Carbon Fiber Shotgun Magazine Extension - plus 8 shots Price: $179. But since the only thing left to hunt in Illinois besides whitetails are grays and foxtails, he now spends most of the fall and winter searching for oak and black walnut trees, and walking behind a crazy Russian squirrel dog named Vladimir. Cost me just under $1000. I've only seen them on the browning site and haven't seen an actual retail price. Theres also a checkered texture so you have something to hold onto. The gun will also be widely available in models that are all-camo (Mossy Oak Shadow Grass Habitat and Break-Up Country), and the all-black Stalker, which comes with flush chokes, not the extended chokes you will find in every other model except the deer slug gun. Paying $1,800 and not getting that feature is a hard pill to swallow, and Im sure it made some hunters pass on the first iteration of the Maxus when it was introduced in 2009. Members; 1.9k . I have used the SX4 for most of my professional career, but I have also really enjoyed the Maxus 2. trigger and a lower price than many would think possible. Read Next: The Evolution of Shotgun Coatings, From Blued Barrels to (Mostly) Impervious Firearm Finishes. cause for lament is the goofy notched recoil pad that makes aftermarket The speed feed is only offered on 20 gauge models and it is invaluable to me. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Maybe down the line I'll buy a Maxus. Joe Genzel is a senior editor at Outdoor Life. And you get the same reliability from the SX4 that you would from those three guns. The triggers are too heavy, as always, but . It is the best working man's autoloader Remington has ever created and it is a very good gun. We shot light 1-ounce target loads and heavy 1 1/8-ounce duck ammo on bluewing teal with the SX4. Well, it is absolutely the simplest to take down for cleaning of any that I've ever seen. One SX4 that I had my eye on was the SX4 Upland, very nice looking gun. Was looking at the sx4 and the browning maxus, what's everyone's thoughtson these guns Quote; Link to comment Share on other sites. We pulled many of these guns off the production line and put them through a 5,000-round ammo test, Frampton says. Whatwe're really looking to find out today is whether or not the Maxus 2 is worth the extra money when the SX4 shares many of the same internal parts as the Maxus. That soft comb is fixed in place, and it does make recoil more manageable, Frampton says. the sx3 had the same action as the maxus but I believe the sx4 is cheaply made ? Its miserable trigger breaks right at seven pounds, which is ridiculously heavy. This test has six categories where we rank the guns on a 1-10 scale. In the end I bought a used Browning Citori Trap Model. Its a big investment. Copyright 2017 by Randy Wakeman. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. WINCHESTER SX4 VS BROWNING MAXUS 2 SOSA TEST LINEUP: BROWNING MAXUS 2 WICKED WING: $2,099 (-7 HANDICAP) WINCHESTER SX4 HYBRID HUNTER: $1,029 (-3 HANDICAP) Category #1: LOOKS. Its best pattern totaled 124 of 140 pellets (89 percent) inside the 30-inch circle, which was only matched by the Franchi Affinity 3. Good luck. The SX4 is merely an updated SX3, using the same old gas system as the Browning Gold/Silver, and the Winchester SX2 and SX3. With a budget around 1200-1500 wanting a good quality wood gun ..which would you recommend and why? Personally, I'd go with a new old stock or slightly used SX3 over the SX4. DEL123, If you love the Maxus 2 in your hands and all the added features, don't hesitate to go for it. i have had a play with both and just my opinion. I have owned, and extensively hunted with, at least five Browning Golds. I have no problem at all with my forearm. Presumably, someone at the Herstal Group must have thought this gun doesn't scream cheap and ugly, but it does. Below is the standard scorecard and guide for handicaps based on price. The 2017 Winchester SX4 Puzzler First Look: 2017 Benelli Super Black Eagle 3, the Best Ever? TFL SOSA SCORECARD: HANDICAPS BASED ON PRICE: BROWNING MAXUS 2 WICKED WING: $2,099 (-7 HANDICAP), WINCHESTER SX4 HYBRID HUNTER: $1,029 (-3 HANDICAP), SX4: Hands down, the Winchester SX4 is one of the lightest recoiling shotguns. With very poor balance and handling, retina-scalding styling, an unacceptable trigger and an overall low-quality build, this is a shotgun model I will be delighted to never handle or shoot again. I asked Frampton if Browning had plans to enter this market and the answer was probably not.. Display as a link instead, Ive used an SX4 for my main duck gun the last two seasons and shot it on spring snow geese with a seven-round magazine extension affixed. up or thumbs down verdict on several firearms. Maxus all the way one of the best autos i use for wildfowling, I do like Berettas but tempted by the Maxus in camo when I change my semi auto in future, Thanks folks, I've heard a lot of mixed reports about the sx4, Neither Benelli m2 Ive shot hundreds of geese with mine never misses a beat. My test model was the Maxus II Wicked Wing. But Ive also patterned and shot a handful of other SX4s on ducks, snow geese, and clay birds. Use code "targetfocused20" for a 20% discount! Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. We will never sell your information, for any reason. We all love old shotguns but that checkering on the grip isnt that great if the gun gets wet, Frampton says. The SX2 operated slightly different though. I am always curious to see what will be revealed about a gun once its patterned. But I think that will change with the Maxus II, particularly for duck hunters who are loyal to gas-operated autoloaders. The SX4 only relies on Active Valve and an Inflex recoil pad (a piece of rubber that is 2 inches thick). It is an eyesore, but works as well as its predecessors. The safety is also larger and square instead of a circle. Would I buy it again? Upload or insert images from URL. Both are protected by a nickel-Teflon coating (as is the carrier) to inhibit corrosion, which saltwater and brackish water duck hunters will appreciate. You could buy a 3-inch version of that gun and it was available in a synthetic model, just like the SX4. Its a series of springs in the stock that softens the blow to your shoulder once the trigger is pulled and the force of the shotshell charge is sent backwards. A moderately heavy . Winchester, and sister company Browning, have cornered the market on shotgun trims. Genzel grew up chasing mallards and Canada geese in the Illinois River Valley. The Browning Maxus II pattern from 35 yards. The SX4 is offered in 20 different synthetic, camouflage, and a combination of camouflage and Cerakote finishes called Wicked Wing. Ive never had that issue with any SX4 (some of those have been the guns of friends who hunt 100 days a year and put thousands of rounds through their SX4s). Plus, your average hunter should keep shooting distances inside 35 yards. I am leaning toward the browning but am not sure yet. additions problematic. After a very poor launch saddled with an instant recall, the Both the Winchester and Browning are very similar with the Browning being just a few ounces lighter. Collectively, these updates make for a slimmer, lighter and livelier gun than the predecessor. extra barrels ($799) all combine to make the A400 series one that has caused There is now a reversible, rectangular cross-bolt safety. Beretta firearms are pretty good. JavaScript is disabled. I have fired 1500 rounds through a 1986 model; no jams. The SX3 (and Browning Silver) share the same action and can If you want to shoot 3-inch shells that will eliminate the 1100. ). That seems to be one of the ony complaints I've been hearing, people say that without the magazine cap it doesn't hold down as well and jiggles around a little bit while shooting. The best made, most fully featured autoloading target gun on Since you said good quality, I'll scratch the 1100 right off your list. I will say that forevermaybe. Speed load feature would decide for me. I like the Winchester sx4 and the Browning silver due to price. Side note: Go with the Old School Camo . Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down on Autoloading Shotguns. All have been good performers, providing a couple of tweaks are made. Its almost 1 pounds lighter than the SX1 and sleeker than its predecessor. All rights reserved. Less plastic and MIM parts. The gun's soft-shooting VersaPort gas system left the author unbruised and thoroughly charmed by Argentina's wingshooting. More sharing options. Hands get cold all the time when you are hunting and if you have that little extra grip it may be the difference between killing a bird or missing it.. The weak one year Beretta limited I think we saw one flock of honkers that day, so I spent a majority of the morning staring at his gun. I didn't like the benelli's at first because it seemed like everyone who shot them thought they were so amazing and that you were just buying the name. are difficult to fit, finishes impossible to match and horrifically over-priced The maxus is an improvment on the SX3, an already great gun. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. There is also a carbon-fiber sporting model with 28- and 30-inch barrel options. I personally chose the SX4. It was invented by John Brownings son, Val, and patented in 1952. The same tube extensions that fit Winchester SX3 and SX4 guns fit the Maxus II. Winchester, and sister company Browning, have cornered the market on shotgun trims. Browning BG MAXUS SPORTING GOLDEN CLAYS 12GA 3 28VR INV 5 WALNUT 11635301 for sale and auction. I have had a Maxus for 3 months and really like it. The BXD BBs performed phenomenally at the range. loads right out of the box. Your link has been automatically embedded. I hadnt seen the Maxus up close yet. 8.5/10, SX4: This is a fairly easy gun to take apart for a gas shotgun. It also included 3 chokes and I bought a skeet choke. ***Buy American***. I really did not understand how it could possibly fit any human being. I thought it was odd-looking. 9/10. Red dots and Magnifiers. done, I'll take a stab at it. It is the overwhelming favorite of Sporting Clays shooters. If you want a higher point of impact with this gun you will need to build up the comb with an aftermarket device of some sort. I actually like the cheek piece for another reason: It always lets you know where your cheek needs to be, so your head is on the stock properly. Browning has been using the speed loading function for decades (you will find it on the A5 line as well). trigger, extremely light weight and a better than average recoil pad. The Herstal Group, referred to as Browning more often than not, has had the Active valve genre of gas-operated autoloaders on the market for a good long while. Other changes are also puzzling. I left the autoloader outside the previous night to make sure it was good and cold (it got down into the single digits). I have been looking for a new shotgun but don't know what to choose. The oversize forearm cap threads are crudely mis-machined and a pain to screw on. I was wondering if anybody has hands on experience with both? Just $1 per month , Brownings flagship gas-operated autoloader has slimmed down and become a more shooter-friendly shotgun, By There is limited availability on several other models that include an old-school vintage tan camo (there is also a Cerakote Wicked Wing in this offering), Realtree Max-5 and Timber (also available in Wicked Wing), Mossy Oak Bottomland and Bottomland Original (also available in Wicked Wing), and the Maxus Hunter, which has a walnut stock/fore-end and a black anodized receiver and barrel. Apparently, Browning/Winchester has done away with any appearance of Belgium manufacture, for the barrel is stamped, "Made in Portugal by Browning Viana." I know most hunting guns shoot flat but I wasn't sure if the Browning Maxus Sporting and SX3 sporting adjustable had high POI. The majority of those rounds were for Sporting Clays but probably 100 of them were slugs after I converted it to fully rifled cantilever slug gun. Weatherby Ive said it before: Theres not much left to upgrade on the inside of a shotgun. I myself have no desire for 3in shells. Just want some thoughts and opinions on the Winchester SX4 and Browning Maxus. It had no problem gobbling them up. The receiver on my original gun developed a hairline crack at 200K+ rounds. And there are turkey- and deer-specific models too. Although saying that browning didn't produce a . i have a Maxus and i have been very pleased with it. Browning Maxus Grackle_killer. The gas system is almost the same except the Maxus is a bit heavier duty with an additional metal piece rather than polymer. I like that. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Its also a much sleeker gun than the original. I have an SX3 and it is a good gun but not great gun for range games. It is well-finished in the Hunter and other walnut stocked A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. There's no cheaping out in this gun either, which is remarkable considering the price tag. I was skeptical Winchester could pull off a gun that cycled shotshells reliably at such a low price point. After all this, at long last came the Browning Gold of 1994. So, if youre interested in a durable duck gun that wont drain your bank account, but will function when you need it to, heres is a more in-depth look at waterfowls best value in an auto-loader: the Winchester Super X4. only MC 312 is one of the latest inertia autoloaders. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. The US improved cylinder choke has a (12 bore) constriction of 0.010" vs 0.020" of the . current Browning autoloaders, it is one of the softest-shooting seven pound I'm more a browning guy because they fit me well. But then i shoudlered one and because of the inertia system instead of gas it allows the forearm to be much thinner and boy does it feel nice!! The Turkish-made Phenoma cycled smoothly, handled beautifully, broke clays with authority, and with an MSRP of $669 it's a superb value. 8/10. Stephen Maturen. others that offer a clearly better-built product. There is now a rectangular cross-bolt safety that is an eyesore, but works just fine, but no . Only had 1 or 2 malfunctions and that was with 1 oz loads. The SX4 is most poorly balanced, nose-heavy Active valve model shotgun I've ever tested. If you want a price point gun that doesnt cut any corners, its tough to pass on the SX4. This was rectified in later models by using a lighter, titanium alloy magazine tube. Today we're using the SOSA TEST (Steves' Official Shotgun Assessment To Effectively Save Time). The one difference you will find in the Winchester Super X4 is a brass ring at the base of the piston, not a black rubber O-ring. 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